Comments on: Let’s have some anti-semitism for Christmas! http://philwelch.net/2005/12/14/lets-have-some-anti-semitism-for-christmas/ the adventures of phil welch, student of philosophy Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:29:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Philip L. Welch http://philwelch.net/2005/12/14/lets-have-some-anti-semitism-for-christmas/#comment-25 Philip L. Welch Sat, 17 Dec 2005 06:30:00 +0000 http://philwelch.net/wordpress/?p=87#comment-25 OK...so either way he's an anti-Semite. What's your point? OK…so either way he’s an anti-Semite. What’s your point?

]]> By: Doug http://philwelch.net/2005/12/14/lets-have-some-anti-semitism-for-christmas/#comment-24 Doug Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:18:00 +0000 http://philwelch.net/wordpress/?p=87#comment-24 "The Jewish do this, the Jews do that. The Jews attack Christmas this way, the Jews attack Christmas that way. But Don't think the Jews are alone in this. <i>"The wagers of this war on Christmas are a cabal of secularists, so-called humanists, trial lawyers, cultural relativists, and liberal, guilt-wracked Christians - not just Jewish people."</i> And so-on...<br/><br/>If in that context, while still anti-semetic, the quote does not mean he just automatically assumes that Jewish wage a war on Christmas as an aside. It means that he just made his case about Jewish people waging this war, and now he's moving onto something else. That was the point I was trying to make. If he had just said this, in an interview or as the first sentence in the book, then yes your point is valid. But if it comes elsewhere in the book where he would have been talking about Jewish people beforehand, the quote is taken out of context. It changes the meaning of the quote. “The Jewish do this, the Jews do that. The Jews attack Christmas this way, the Jews attack Christmas that way. But Don’t think the Jews are alone in this. “The wagers of this war on Christmas are a cabal of secularists, so-called humanists, trial lawyers, cultural relativists, and liberal, guilt-wracked Christians - not just Jewish people.” And so-on…

If in that context, while still anti-semetic, the quote does not mean he just automatically assumes that Jewish wage a war on Christmas as an aside. It means that he just made his case about Jewish people waging this war, and now he’s moving onto something else. That was the point I was trying to make. If he had just said this, in an interview or as the first sentence in the book, then yes your point is valid. But if it comes elsewhere in the book where he would have been talking about Jewish people beforehand, the quote is taken out of context. It changes the meaning of the quote.

]]> By: Philip L. Welch http://philwelch.net/2005/12/14/lets-have-some-anti-semitism-for-christmas/#comment-23 Philip L. Welch Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:20:00 +0000 http://philwelch.net/wordpress/?p=87#comment-23 Explain what else he could have possibly meant by "not just Jewish people". Anyone trying to avoid the appearance of anti-Semitism, even if they were anti-Semitic, wouldn't accuse them of being in a "cabal" to ware a "war on Christmas".<br/><br/>Explain to me what possible context could justify that sort of statement. Explain what else he could have possibly meant by “not just Jewish people”. Anyone trying to avoid the appearance of anti-Semitism, even if they were anti-Semitic, wouldn’t accuse them of being in a “cabal” to ware a “war on Christmas”.

Explain to me what possible context could justify that sort of statement.

]]> By: Doug http://philwelch.net/2005/12/14/lets-have-some-anti-semitism-for-christmas/#comment-22 Doug Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:54:00 +0000 http://philwelch.net/wordpress/?p=87#comment-22 <i>"The wagers of this war on Christmas are a cabal of secularists, so-called humanists, trial lawyers, cultural relativists, and liberal, guilt-wracked Christians - not just Jewish people."</i><br/><br/>Except that quote was taken out of context. He could have spent half the book before this blaming it on the Jews, then broadens his attack. While I do not agree with him, it isn't clear from this sentence that he thinks "it's pretty well established that the Jews are after you, so you don't even have to accuse them directly."<br/><br/>Doug “The wagers of this war on Christmas are a cabal of secularists, so-called humanists, trial lawyers, cultural relativists, and liberal, guilt-wracked Christians - not just Jewish people.”

Except that quote was taken out of context. He could have spent half the book before this blaming it on the Jews, then broadens his attack. While I do not agree with him, it isn’t clear from this sentence that he thinks “it’s pretty well established that the Jews are after you, so you don’t even have to accuse them directly.”

Doug

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